tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311151968716514867.post445436097130203726..comments2023-09-06T08:23:46.896-07:00Comments on oreneta aground (but missinaibi's afloat!): Citizenship and partiesorenetahttp://www.blogger.com/profile/10616103982088424715noreply@blogger.comBlogger2125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311151968716514867.post-73946872536580476272007-08-15T18:40:00.000-07:002007-08-15T18:40:00.000-07:00Helen: I agree at some level, although I am not s...Helen: I agree at some level, although I am not sure that you can have patriotism without nationalism at some level...<BR/><BR/>I did order the cake, hopefully they'll get the flag on it. If not we'll stick with red and white...orenetahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10616103982088424715noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8311151968716514867.post-65612241560978666642007-08-15T09:42:00.000-07:002007-08-15T09:42:00.000-07:00Patriotism and nationalism are very different thin...Patriotism and nationalism are very different things and there is an excellent essay by George Orwell all about this. He says that it is good to be proud of the good things about your country, to be patriotic, but when this degenerated into nationalism and saying that my country is good therefore yours is bad it leads to strife and war. I think he is right, so wave your flag with pride.Helenhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07201306601361606616noreply@blogger.com